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Federal ID Required for a Fishing Guide

Postby Blind Squirrel » Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:54 pm

I was seriously considering getting my Arizona fishing guide license next year, but I just saw an article in the latest Bass Times that says I have to get a federal ID called a TWIC card from the Coast Guard. After wading through mutliple sites it looks like a huge pain in the butt. Preregistration and then three seperate visits to a TWIC center before you can get it. Makes me want to sail my bass boat under a foreign flag.

Holy crap!

Is it as big a royal plunge up the dearie aire as it sounds like?

To me it seems like just another a money/power grab more than anything else.
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Re: Federal ID Required for a Fishing Guide

Postby Bob La Londe » Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:42 pm

After I saw your post I grabbed my copy of Bass Times and looked up the article. $50,000 fine for non compliance. Wow! Then I did you like you did probably and looked up some of the requirements and qualifications. Its like getting a security clearance to get their stupid card. In order to be a fishing guide you need to pass the equivelant of a Federal background check, provide your fingerprints, and jump through all kinds of hoops, and there are things that will disqualify you from getting it that have absolutely nothing to do with being a good fishing guide. Yeah, it looks like another big power and money grab.
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Re: Federal ID Required for a Fishing Guide

Postby Blind Squirrel » Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:27 pm

Well, I think when you gotta jump through as many hoops as getting a security clearance to be a fishing guide the terrorists have already won. They hated our free way of life. Now they don't have to hate it anymore. Its gone.

Sorry about getting all political. The whole thing just pisses me off.
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Blind Squirrel: to reflect the reality of most of our fishing lives wrote:Some salt-water anglers go fishing without knowing when high tide or low tide occurs. A few fishermen seem to act as if tides make little or no difference in salt-water fishing. Those anglers may spend many hours fishing at less than ideal times when they could concentrate their efforts on the best tidal periods and catch more fish in less time. Of course one must understand that fishing is a pass time upon which success is not predicated purely on numbers and perfection of performance. An angler usually would like to catch fish, but often one must fish when one can rather than castrate that experience from one's life if they can't always fish at the perfect time or in the perfect place. Unlike the opinion of some, fishing is to be experienced in its entirety, and any bit of gear available and time spent no matter how many or how few fish are caught can be rewarding. A true challenge is not being able to catch fish when fishing is good, but rather to be able to catch fish whenever you have the opportunity to go fishing.
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Re: Federal ID Required for a Fishing Guide

Postby thunderchicken » Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:40 pm

You both have a right to be ticked off. There is no valid reason Americans have to go through all of this, we are NOT the enemy! This is just way out of line and it needs to stop.

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Re: Federal ID Required for a Fishing Guide

Postby Old Guy » Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:45 am

First off, I've been around longer than most of you guys and I have pretty much given up on stopping this sort of thing. Its gone too far and its to late to stop it. I'm not even sure you can slow it down much. You are going to have a working universal ID system in another two generations. Three at the most. I'm not talking about a computerized card you carry in your pocket, but a DNA database and a surgical implant that broadcasts your info to readers as you pass. We already have cards that do that. Real number of the beast kind of stuff. I'll probably be dead before it comes into full swing, but most of you won't. Total disarmament will follow shortly thereafter. The reason I say after is that the NRA has done an amazing job of holding the wolves at bay so far. Even then look at the staggering losses we have suffered in that arena.

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Re: Federal ID Required for a Fishing Guide

Postby Bob La Londe » Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:08 am

This conversation has turned too political I think. Atleast as much my own fault as anybody's. It will be locked.
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